Kentucky Wildcats vs. Indiana Hoosiers: to be continued?

by Kentucky basketball

Mar 23, 2012; Atlanta, GA, USA; Kentucky Wildcats head coach John Calipari (left) embraces Indiana Hoosiers head coach Tom Crean (right) following the game in the semifinals of the south region of the 2012 NCAA men


With rumors of the series between Kentucky and Indiana coming to an end for the foreseeable future and Tom Crean and John Calipari talking it over, one can only think that the series might be salvaged. Crean and Calipari have been noted to be close friends, not “acquaintances”, as Calipari and Pitino are. But if you sport the Blue and White, do you truly care if the series continues or not?

The Cats already have border rivals in Tennessee and imagined border rivalries between Cincinnati, Ohio State, and West Virginia. But you don’t see those schools begging to play UK annually. Indiana, on the contrary, needs UK more than we need them. Bob Knight is (has been) washed up and his days at IU have been numbered for well over a decade now.

In that decade since his departure, Kentucky has had more than enough wins against the Hoosiers to support the fact that Indiana only hurts UK’s schedule. Kentucky has a 10-3 record against the Hoosiers, with two of those losses coming in Bloomington since the teams ended play at neutral sites. And that is exactly to what the talks boil down to: neutral sites.

There had been talks for the past few seasons that the series would resume in neutral sites after the completion of the Yum! Center in Louisville, so the Cats would be able to play in Freedom Hall without problems. In Indianapolis, the Lucas Oil Stadium was also completed, giving both schools neutral sites in their respective states. But after Indiana’s rise to prominence and their victory over Kentucky, the home crowd in Bloomington is the only advantage they have left in their arsenal. Calipari’s recruiting is at a steady rate, compared to that of Crean’s, which has taken nearly four seasons to take off.

So the facts determine that the series helps Indiana more than Kentucky, as well as the ending of the series (presumably temporary) hurts Indiana more. Kentucky should schedule bigger names and more competition while they can, but with Indiana on the rise, would keeping them be a wiser decision? The ball is in your court, Tommy Boy.

Topics: Kentucky Wildcats Vs Indiana Hoosiers, Tom Crean

Comments
  • HoosierHoopsta

    We are happy to let the series go… We will take KU over the UKers… until there is a regime change we rather not play this type of program

    • James Streble

       @HoosierHoopsta We don’t need IU on the schedule. We are 10-3 in the last 13 meetings and we did you a favor by keeping you the schedule during the Davis/Sampson/Early Crean years. Were you trolling message boards while your program was on probation and losing every night?
       
      Speaking of “that type of program”, you do realize that Crean and IU self reported violations in 2009, right? You also know about Crean’s relationship with the controversial A-HOPE organization, the same organization that gave Crean Hanner Perea, who has major eligibility issues. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587669
       
      So, go be a hypocrite somewhere else and delude yourself into thinking your boy Crean is some type of example of college basketball’s white knight.

      • HoosierHoopsta

         @James Streble
         LOL… You crack me up… typical UKer… sure the program reported some miscues as your program has… many have but these were secondary… shall we go through your program’s list?  I doubt you want to go there.  There is no relationship with A-Hope and Crean… there is a coach that started the A-Hope program that was with Indiana Elite an AAU basketball Club… which Hanner Perea was a member of and participated in the A-Hope program… A worthwile program I might add.  But there was never a connection with Crean.  Check where our recruits played in AAU before making such an ill informed utterance.  The Indiana Elite has met with the NCAA on numerous occasions with no results of wrong doing.  Nice try at a smear… Hanner has no eligibility issues.  We smell the fear!  Good Luck. 

        • James Streble

           @HoosierHoopsta Hanner has no eligibility issues? Did you read the article I posted? As of no relationship between Crean and A-HOPE, check this one out: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=6587668
           
          Keep deluding yourself buddy. Kentucky has had no infractions since 1989 while IU has wracked them up thanks to Sampson and now Crean. 
           
          Good luck to you as well. It looks like the series will be alive and Calipari will have his way with the neutral court games. Crean knows that IU needs UK more than UK needs IU.
           
          Never forget this season’s Sweet Sixteen revenge and the 2012 title that followed. Have a nice day!

        • HoosierHoopsta

           @James Streble
           Evidently you can not read and comprehend… no linkage to Crean… with A-Hope… it was a manufactured story and has been reviewed by the NCAA and found baseless…. google it… you will see… now for your statement no infractions since 1989… Too Funny
          Here are three… for you to ponder… who is delusional
          http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/timing-of-kentucky-uconn-violation-reports-extremely-questionable/61605 http://kykernel.com/2009/09/22/mens-basketball-reports-5-violations-in-last-year/ http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/35416/report-says-calipari-violated-bump-rule

          • http://www.wildcatbluenation.com Paul Jordan

            Why are you still fighting on a Kentucky site. Do you realize that Indiana JUST CAME OFF PROBATION?

            And let’s hear your excse for Tom Crean hiring not one but two AAU coaches as assistant coaches for IU? Mark Adam’s son delivered four payers including Cody Zeller to the Hoosiers and Kenny Johnson was hired to deliver two players.

            Looks like Crean plays in the gray area as well …. and how was A-Hope a manufactured story? Let’s talk when the NCAA Clearinghouse gets done with Hanner. And the rest of your recruits. Guarantee not all of them will make it to campus

        • James Streble

           @HoosierHoopsta We could go back and forth with this all day dude: http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/36567/what-in-the-world-was-tom-crean-thinking
           
          The bottom line is that Tom Crean is running “that type of program” that you are sneering at.
           
          As for A-Hope, there is a connection there since Crean has obviously recruited players from that organization. It’s dirty and you know it. 
           
          And could you care to explain why Crean hired a 1-31 AAU coach to his staff just so he could get an inside track on Stanford Robinson and BeeJay Anplayboy.
          http://www.insidethehall.com/2012/04/23/report-iu-to-interview-towsons-kenny-johnson/
           
          Again, your boy Crean isn’t squeaky clean. “That type of program” he is running at IU fits right in with what you assume about Cal and UK. 
           
          And your school’s Sweet Sixteen memorial trophy case for a 27-9 season is downright laughable. Didn’t you used to be IU?

      • HoosierHoopsta

         @James Streble
         LOL… You crack me up… typical UKer… sure the program reported some miscues as your program has… many have but these were secondary… shall we go through your program’s list?  I doubt you want to go there.  There is no relationship with A-Hope and Crean… there is a coach that started the A-Hope program that is with Indiana Elite an AAU basketball Club… which Hanner Perea was a member of a team in the program as well as participated in the A-Hope program… A worthwhile program I might add.  But there was never a connection with Crean.  Check where our recruits played in AAU before making such an ill informed utterance.  The Indiana Elite founder of A-Hope has met with the NCAA on numerous occasions with no results of wrong doing.  Nice try at a smear… Hanner has no eligibility issues.  We smell the fear!  Good Luck.

        • http://www.wildcatbluenation.com Paul Jordan

          For the record, I have not deleted any of the posts by the Hoosier fan, so he must have done that himself …. but I have to say that I have never seen a fan base as ARROGANT as the Hoosier fanbase after a SWEET SIXTEEN appearance. Not even Louisville. Kentucky has no reason to be scared of Indiana and we are not a one sport school like IU. Clearly the series benefits IU more.

          To be honest, I don’t get how sanctimonious you are. Your program was on PROBATION recently and Tom Vrean self reported illegal phone calls less than a year after IU was put on probation for the same thing. Also, Tome Crean watched Beejay Ayaa and Stanford Robinson play in a AAU event on 4/28 and TWO days later, hired their former AAU coach to his staff. Note that coach is coming from a 1-31 program.

          And for the Hanner Perea stuff, this is FACT. Not fiction. Keep your head in the sand and enjoy the “shot” some more

          • http://www.wildcatbluenation.com Paul Jordan

            Here is the original post from the Indiana poster which James and I replied to which he deleted:

            @James Streble
            LOL… You crack me up… typical UKer… sure the program reported some miscues as your program has… many have but these were secondary… shall we go through your program’s list? I doubt you want to go there. There is no relationship with A-Hope and Crean… there is a coach that started the A-Hope program that is with Indiana Elite an AAU basketball Club… which Hanner Perea was a member of a team in the program as well as participated in the A-Hope program… A worthwhile program I might add. But there was never a connection with Crean. Check where our recruits played in AAU before making such an ill informed utterance. The Indiana Elite founder of A-Hope has met with the NCAA on numerous occasions with no results of wrong doing. Nice try at a smear… Hanner has no eligibility issues. We smell the fear! Good Luck.